HD Install :: dependencies, how to get around them,  and others



well, i've been using dsl for about a week now, and generally i would like to figure /everything/ out for myself, but some things just aren't working. i know most of you don't recommend a hd install, because that isn't what it's for and blah blah blah, i don't ant to hear that, i've read enough of it already in various topics in this forum. i've been having some trouble with dependencies, most notably, for wine. if it (synaptic) says wine depends on libwine, which is fine in and of itself, find libwine, install it, or so i thought. libwine depends on libarts, libcupsys2, libsane, libusb and xlibmesa, fine, go find those, whatever, but then you go back to get wine, and it still doesn't want to download it... what am i doing wrong?

another problem i am having is finding some of the files that it (synaptic) downloads, is there anyway to /find/ them without searching every folder manually?

another problem is that some files just don't do anything, one example being limewire, i downloaded it, but clicking on it does nothing.

and finally, are you supposed to do anything with dsl-dpkg..dsl and gnu-utils.dsl, or do you just download them and let them be, because when i click on them nothing happens aswell.

thanks in advance for the help :)

... 21 views and not one answer? well... thanks
Well I'll take a last stab in the dark..you need java for limewire available in the repository... synaptic is a gui for apt-get which has limitations in dsl due to its small debian size..you need to have your dpkg.dsl in home/dsl and then click the mydsl button and wait 30+ to install dpackage..so you can apt-get what is available via the synaptic gui.choose from menu enableapt/ synaptic...the downloads are stored in var/cache/apt/archives...you can mydsl gnu utilities if you like....I am typeing from a hd install they are a nessessary part of antique computeing..I drink wine but I think the idea of apt-get is to choose your download and it will take care of downloading and installing dependancies.. and best of luck with that....21 views not 21 reads..it's relative...serenity now...: )
i previously installed java, ok for the limitations, that is where dpkg.dsl is, synaptic already works so apparently i did all that, thank you for the dir that the downloads are stored, makes my life easier, i don't care if you drink wine, i'm having trouble with its dependencies, and yes, for most programs it does take care of dependencies, but for wine it won't, even when i download the dependencies myself it won't download, and no serenety yet, it's midnight, and i'm still up :/
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Wow.  You probably got "21 views and not one answer" because this is a crazy, general, multi-question post.

Hmm.

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i've been having some trouble with dependencies, most notably, for wine. if it (synaptic) says wine depends on libwine, which is fine in and of itself, find libwine, install it, or so i thought. libwine depends on libarts, libcupsys2, libsane, libusb and xlibmesa, fine, go find those, whatever, but then you go back to get wine, and it still doesn't want to download it... what am i doing wrong?


What do you mean?  It won't download it?  Is this a problem with your internet connection or your browser?  Or are you downloading it through Synaptic?  Perhaps try using 'wget' to nab the file and then an 'apt-get install'.  (Or an 'apt-get update' if that's what the command is.  I don't know apt-get.)

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another problem i am having is finding some of the files that it (synaptic) downloads, is there anyway to /find/ them without searching every folder manually?


Oh, god yes.  Please learn to effectively use grep.  In my own personal history, it was what hands-down convinced me that unix systems are much easier to use than microsoft systems.

man grep

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another problem is that some files just don't do anything, one example being limewire, i downloaded it, but clicking on it does nothing.


No idea.  Be more specific with what, exactly, it is that you're asking.  What file did you download?  Where did you download it?  How did you install it?  Etc.

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and finally, are you supposed to do anything with dsl-dpkg..dsl and gnu-utils.dsl, or do you just download them and let them be, because when i click on them nothing happens aswell.


These are mydsl extensions.  How you load them depends in part in how you get them.  If you use the mydsl extension browser to get 'em, then they are downloaded to, by default, /tmp and then automatically loaded.  If you download them through your browser or through the command line, then you'll have to load them manually.  This can be done from the command line or through emelfm.

Command line
1.  Be in the directory as myextension.dsl
2.  Type "mydsl-load myextension.dsl" (w/o quotes).

Emelfm
1.  Find the extension in the directory to which it was downloaded.
2.  Select it.
3.  Click "MyDSL" (You should get a Success! message.)



And finally, Yoda, the frayed and inspecific nature of this post makes it annoying to respond to.  Coupled with the fact that at the time I'm posting this, there are 10 times as many guests as there are registered users, you can see how there may be a high view-to-reply ratio.  Be patient.  There are some smart and helpful people living in this forum. (I'm not one of them, but I try.)


Welcome to Damn Small Linux.  I hope you get it to do everything you want to.  This little distro has taught me almost everything I know about Linux.  Read every script you can get your hands on.
Files installed through Synaptic will almost always be installed into /usr (occasionally an X app will be in /usr/X11R6), with configuration files usually in /etc.
Executables will be in /usr/bin.
Shared or static libraries will be in /usr/lib.
Data files such as pixmaps, documentation, and example files will be in /usr/share.

I don't know what you mean when you say you "click on them"...that's a pretty vague statement. If you're using Synaptic then you are apparently already using dpkg, since I think Synaptic is a frontend for apt-get/dpkg.  You probably won't notice much of a difference with gnu-utils unless you tend to use the commandline or scripts...it replaces much of the Busybox toolkit with more robust versions of many of the core system utilities.

I can't help with dependencies...no experience with Synaptic, apt-get, or most other package systems.
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